

PK: And are you trying to like, confront the t hings that terrify you by making this movie? PK: So that’s the therapy that the William Dafoe character is trying to apply to his wife and his mother. And the idea is to think as soon as possible and then say to yourself, “Last time this happened, I was o kay after a while so maybe I will be okay again after a while.” LV: Yeah, the idea is normally when you panic, then your thoughts never get to your brain. Like the “He” character, the film sort of confronts things that are terrifying and tries to make them less terrifying. Well, um, it seems like the subject of the film also is like conducive to treating depression.

But th e problem about Prozac is it doesn’t continue being good, you know? It holds for a couple of years. It’s better than Prozac, though, I imagine. I don’t know how many people have the opportunity, you know, to do a film to get cured. LV: Uh, yeah, well my treatment was more the work than the subject, if you understand what I mean. PK: Would you recommend making a movie like this as a treatment for depression?


PK: Hi! Thanks for fitting us into your schedule. I could see in von Trier’s spontaneous look of panic and terror that the man’s mental distress and instability, at least at this moment, was unfeigned. Though some might find the discussion Of Wille m Dafoe’s penis of greater interest, for me the best part is when my then editor of the late Boston Phoenix stepped into the conference room where the interview was taking place and, glancing into the laptop screen, cheerily asked me what video I was watching. And in a sense that film sounds like it could be a precursor or prototype of the new project, with both starring a long-suffering Charlotte Gainsbourg. 1 at Boston’s Museum of Fine Arts, in preparation no doubt for the upcoming Nymphomaniac onslaught) and taking another look at his movies can get you down and – I don’t recommend watching, for example, the entire “Europa” trilogy in a single sitting – but in my research I came up with this lighthearted conversation I had (via Skype) with the director in 2009 about Antichrist. Writing a preview of a Lars von Trier retrospective (there is one scheduled for Feb. A 2009 interview with Lars von Trier on Antichrist
